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Old May 23, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24   #21
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There is no kurzick vs luxon thing.
It's just a small part of the story.

Kurzick territory is a territorry. Luxon sea is a sea.
There is no war, there is no advantage/disadvantage.

It's all just lore.

The price of Jade has nothing to do with the price of Amber.


Um what?

are you serious?
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Old May 23, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03   #22
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The Luxon "supply run" quest only takes a wamo with mending 1 minute to run.
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Old May 23, 2006, 08:10 PM // 20:10   #23
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the kurzik Territory is much harder to get through which makes any quest u do take a hwile. kurzik mobs seem much harder than luxon mobs. i was able to do most of the luxon quests in 2 hours during the BWE but im still not done with Kurzik quests. still have wardens on the march, black moa, and a few others in drazhen thicket.... and ive been in Kurzik territory for 2 weeks now.
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Old May 23, 2006, 08:48 PM // 20:48   #24
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The Luxon "supply run" quest only takes a wamo with mending 1 minute to run.
This is untrue. You need to update your information.

The run was never faster than 2 minutes round trip [example]. The run itself with no zoning was about 1:30ish. With the nerfed mobs, this becomes 1:40ish (syphon speed, knockdowns, etc). However, it is impossible to complete unless you fight a battle against 2 monk enemies with Balthazar's Aura and Healing Touch. This means that it has been effectively canned.

Also, addressing Jade Arena: this too has been fixed so that it is no longer trappable.

I suggest that everyone try these quests to find out for themselves how they have been updated rather than inserting memes.

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Old May 23, 2006, 09:28 PM // 21:28   #25
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I'm not going to comment on the Luxon quests as I've never done any of them, but the Kurzick Conservatory run takes longer than the OP's claimed 1 minute 30 second exaggeration (solo). I call bull-honkey on that one.

What's really going on here is you got used to such cakewalk Luxion faction and now there has been some balance added to it with the added nerfs to your supply running quest. Now you're just whining because it's not something you can do solo while watching Sesame Street with your uber Charge/Sprint/Mending W/Mo.

Ever tried to actually do something with a team of people? Obviously the game was designed with that in mind and you should try it sometime...
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Old May 23, 2006, 09:41 PM // 21:41   #26
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I'm not going to comment on the Luxon quests as I've never done any of them
Fair enough.
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What's really going on here is you got used to such cakewalk Luxion faction and now there has been some balance added to it with the added nerfs to your supply running quest.
You mean Kurzick?
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Ever tried to actually do something with a team of people? Obviously the game was designed with that in mind and you should try it sometime...
Well, they have fixed alliance battle by doing this--it's the only viable way for Luxon faction now.
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Old May 23, 2006, 09:45 PM // 21:45   #27
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was just looking at that running example and saw this...http://youtube.com/watch?v=VafmKDFDo...arming%20luxon

wtf? I'm just trying to work out how they made it, I can't see any player character luring them
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Old May 23, 2006, 09:56 PM // 21:56   #28
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You mean Kurzick?
No I meant what I said.

As I understood it the Luxon Supply run was stuipid easy before they nerfed it. Easily done SOLO in less than 2 minutes from what I heared. I'm pretty sure this had something to do with Cavalon being held with easily twice as much faction than HvH during this time period. Now that the nerfs have been introduced to the Luxon quests we should see the amount of faction required to hold the capitals balancing out.

It was a widely know fact that earning Luxon faction was way easier than earning Kurzick faction before the recent nerfs. Again I cannot comment on Luxon quests as I personally have never done them, but heaven forbid it takes a tiny bit of time/effort now to actually get your Luxon faction...
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Old May 24, 2006, 12:01 AM // 00:01   #29
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Unrepeatable aside, are there now enough Luxon 'normal' quests to get 10k faction for the Befriending?

I remember during FPE that I had to do Arena multiple times to get the 10k on top of normal quests, whereas I got over 10k on Kurzik doing the normal quests alone.
I don't think there are, or if there are, they're *much* tougher than their Kurzick counterparts. I couldn't find enough, which is why I did Jade Arena until I got 10k (I did it with a mes, not a trapper). There seem to be a lot more non-repeatable quests once you complete Gyala Hatchery than there are after Eternal Grove.
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Old May 24, 2006, 01:44 AM // 01:44   #30
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No I meant what I said.
I was simply addressing your "not commenting on Luxon quests" comment in my own witty way.

And no, there are not enough non-repeatable quests to get 10k faction on Luxon side. As I said: Alliance Battle is now your best option.
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Old May 24, 2006, 06:06 AM // 06:06   #31
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And no, there are not enough non-repeatable quests to get 10k faction on Luxon side. As I said: Alliance Battle is now your best option.
Jade Arena still gives 400 faction every ~5 minutes for Luxons (with henchies), even with the nerf, and might be even quicker if you are either ranger secondary or primary for Frozen Soil so you don't have to kill the guys 10 times because they all have rez signets. Haven't tried out Alliance battles because my current guild is poo-poo so I can't compare to them.
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Old May 24, 2006, 07:05 AM // 07:05   #32
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poo-poo as in wrapped chicken??? Sorry. I know I know work with my drugs.. lol I am so bad...
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Old May 24, 2006, 01:53 PM // 13:53   #33
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There are less Luxon quests than Kurzick. Thing is that it is much much easier to gain Luxon faction because of the Alliance Battle factor.. The Luxons are pushed back to Etnaran Keys every other three hours, therefore they gain battlefield advantage, and have an easy time of winning the battle. If you grab a good team of 4 and the other 2 allied teams aren't complete retards, you will get ~750 faction per battle... while if at this time you are fighting with the Kurzick, you gain the amount of faction depending on the points you earned in battle, so no more than 499. This is also why Jade price is dropping, many people (like myself) just wait till we're at etnaran keys to do AB, 3 AB for 2 pieces of jade.
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 02:36 AM // 02:36   #34
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sorry old resurrection on accident. However, bottom line.... play and figure out strategies rather then cry for nerfs of all things...

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Old Sep 27, 2006, 05:07 AM // 05:07   #35
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If you want to farm Luxon factions, do jade arena.
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 08:31 AM // 08:31   #36
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 10:28 AM // 10:28   #37
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"It used to take 50 minutes of faction grind to get 10k faction on either side. It's still 50 minutes for Kurzick, but I haven't got a clue what it would take for Luxon. My best guess is that it takes around 8 minutes (maybe more?) to complete the arena quest. Essentially, that becomes 3h20m to get 10k Luxon faction."

8 minutes? O.O
me and the guildies were doing this in about half that. 5 warriors, a healer, ranger with Fs and a necro with orders n stuff.

we did try this with 2 smiting monks but found quicker this way.

BUT... they complained that it was boring. fools
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